there is a woman at the place i work that has studied off and on for several yrs with one of the jw employees .
today i was in her office and i noticed in her bookcase a collection of jw literature .
she has the insight books , a revelation book and some other brochures .
Interesting post !!!
Yesterday I noticed the jw's sitting at a table in the college where I work, they were talking to a student and he seemed pretty interested.
I felt like going up and asking him, "ask them what will happen if you decide to leave this religion anytime after you become a member".
But I just did not know if that would have been a good idea, this post has some good points.
i ask this, because i just got wind that at my hall, we're paying the travel expenses for a bethelite to come and do our memorial talk.
i don't know how much this is going to run us, but i fail to see the practicality of it.
he's not delivering a special memorial outline or anything.
when the kh I once attended was finally constructed Bro. Glass came out and gave the dedication talk.
He was really nice, and seemed humble.
But it was like attending a concert when he gave the talk. They had to rent the local HS auditorium to handle all of the people.
This was 1981 or 82.
i would assume that some or a good number of us here as normal humans in this society - consider " lawless " actions to include murder , robbery, extortion, rape, child abuse, war , terrorism, etc.
the wt society has their own definition of what's considered " lawless ".
anything that's considered a disfellowshipping offense in the jehovah's witnesses is now considered " lawless ".
wow what an interesting post Mr. Flipper.
It is amazing how they skew the definition of lawless to fit their own mold,,,,, thanks for posting this !
2011 yearbook, singing praise to jehovah, p.17-21:.
singing songs of praise to jehovah is an integral part of our worship.
at the 2009 conventions, therefore, god's servants were overjoyed when they were told of a new songbook, sing to jehovah.
How was the mammoth task of preparing the new songbook accomplished
from what I have seen and heard, assigning tonedeaf individuals to oversee this assignment was the biggest part.
well atleast not for a long time without getting the elders' attention, either to give him priviledges or to suspect him of having committed a sin and not coming out.. .
Botzwana said : I was just like you but I WANTED to be one. They NEVER asked me in 16 years.
Gods spirit was probably protecting you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aguaoibuhc.
-sab.
the large plastic bubble around his head really hit home for me.
my decision to de-program my mind, about a year ago, has been fairly uneventfull, despite a few intense but very real conversations with my wife and parents.. however in the past couple days my father has pretty much made it clear to me that he will put the gb (not god, although they are pretty much viewed the same) before me.
also tonight the inlaws, who have probly gotten whiff of my inactivity and who never get personal, started to give a lecture on the extreme importance of the family worship arrangement so lovingly arranged for us by the fds, and how if we are not taking advantage of this wonderful provision will not be prepared for armagedon.
i swear blood was gushing from biting my tounge.. im starting to sense that consequences are coming for my sin of independent research and study.
family division is the worst.
yes it is, hang in there and I wish you the best
i dont want to be bitter.
but i now understand why some or many ex-jws are bitter.
i remember when i was an active zealous jw thinking, if someone wants to leave, go ahead and leave.
yes I became bitter and it is still a part of me.
The reason behind it is simple , I did not realize the true implications that occur when you leave this religion.
I became a witness when I was 15, and I remember the flurry from my dad to replace all of my worldly friends with "true friends".
I also gave up college for this religion.
Now I am 50, and going to school when I can. I get bitter mostly when I think of what I lost because of this cult.
i went to a catholic funeral yesterday.
there was no wake, only a mass and the burial and military honors at the cemetery.
although it was not a relative, my j.w.
I attended funerals / masses all the time.
There were times when the elders got a whiff of what I did and then talk to me, telling me how I was putting myself in a "questionable" position by sharing
in a part of Babylon the Great. I would smile and walk away. One guy told me, "just think of what would happen if armageddon started while you were in that church for the funeral. . personally , it was more important for me to give support to the family of the one who died, I don't remember reading anywhere in the Bible when Jesus ignored someone in need because they did not believe everyhing that he taught.
And why make excuses ? Sometimes a little "hard love" is the best thing. If you tell the people at the funeral that xxxx decided not to come because of her religion,well xxxx will in time start to feel the effects of drawing a line in the sand regarding how she is treating people when they really could use some support.
Now since I am no longer a jw, I see this behavior as a way for them to feel superior toward all the other people who do not accept the wtbts as their savior
i was just looking at some old jw associates on facebook this morning, and one of them had this site on his profile.. i thought some of you might enjoy (or not ) looking at some of this stuff.
the way some of the material is spun to look like god is directing this organization is pretty bizzare.
esp.in the celebrity section.. http://stuffofinteresttojws.blogspot.com/.
I was just looking at some old jw associates on facebook this morning, and one of them had this site on his profile.
I thought some of you might enjoy (or not ) looking at some of this stuff.
The way some of the material is spun to look like God is directing this organization is pretty bizzare. esp.in the celebrity section.
